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Well, good morning, everyone, and welcome to this Pension Boards meeting.
My name is John Jones, the independent chair of the board, and I will be chairing this
meeting today.
This meeting is being webcast live on the Council's website.
I'll now ask the board members present to introduce themselves, and please can you also
state any declarations of interest you may have in the agenda items and the nature of
the interest. I will start with David.
Good morning, everybody. My name is David Thompson. I represent retired and deferred
pension members and I have no conflicts of interest on the agenda before us.
Thank you. Councillor Khan.
Good morning. Good morning, everyone. My name is Ahmad Khan and I represent pension fund
employees and I have nothing to take care of. Thank you.
Dwayne.
Good morning everyone, my name is Dwayne Brown, I'm the Senior Officer representing the Employees
Representative and I have no conflict of interest on today's agenda.
Thank you.
Thanks.
And Aneka online please.
Yes, Aneka Oroghe, I'm a Senior Lawyer in the Legal Department and I represent the
employee.
I have no interest in the agendas.
Thank you.
And I think Annette has just joined.
I will just pause for a moment.
Morning Annette.
Can you hear me?
Good morning.
Good morning everyone.
We are just doing introductions so you have arrived at the right time.
So if you could just say who you are and if you have got any declarations of interest.
Good morning everyone.
Annette McKenna representing admitted bodies, employers,
and I don't have any conflicting interest.
Thank you.
Moving on, Fahana, are there any apologies
for absence today?
No, Chair, I've not received any apologies.
I think John Grey might be joining us later
from his message the other day, thank you.
Declarations of interest, we've already covered that point.
That's item 2.
Item 3, appointment of vice -chair.
This is the first meeting of the municipal year 26 -27.
I would like to nominate David to serve as vice -chair, if anyone is happy to accept that
nomination.
Thank you, Duane.
All happy with that?
Annette?
I'm getting nods around the room.
Thank you, David.
And finally, where are we now?
So that's agreed.
Item 4 then are the unrestricted minutes of our last meeting,
which is on pages 11 onward.
So I'll take these page by page for questions or comments.
page 11 page 12 page 13 yeah I think I think it's covered isn't it in the
up later.
Well, we like good news, so we'll deal with that in a moment.
So where was I?
So page 13, page 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19.
Can we agree the minutes, please, and confirm that?
Yeah, thank you.
Item 5 of the terms of reference and meeting dates which are on 5 .4.
Farhana, can you just talk us through this, please?
Yes, Chair.
It's the annual report on the terms of reference, basically setting out the reference for the
board, and also just need agreement that you're happy to meet at 10 a .m. for pension board
meetings.
Thank you.
Any questions?
Everyone happy with 10 o 'clock?
And also can I just draw your attention to page 29, which are the dates of the meetings for the year.
Next one 21st of September then 14th of December.
Agreed? Thank you.
I can see John Grey has joined the meeting.
John can you just introduce yourself please and say if you have any declarations of interest.
I have no questions.
Apologies, I have some IT problems and no decorations.
Thank you.
That takes us on to item 8 point, well item 7, submissions from the pensions committee.
I went to the last one and reported back, there is no feedback from me from that meeting, which was quite some time ago.
Reports delay, point one of the annual report which is on page 31 to 33 which I drafted
and circulated back in April I think.
So it's here for questions, comments and approval if you're comfortable with this.
Of clarification, chair, on page 33 the two Xs, the billion and the X, if they could be
inserted now or later. Thank you.
You can pick that up, can't you?
Everyone happy with the report? I think so.
In that case, can we agree this, please? Confirm?
Yeah. Thank you.
Aims point two. Next report is the pensions admin report.
So nice to see this and some progress. So who would like to highlight this for us?
I'm assuming everyone's read this.
Is there anything in particular you want to draw
to our attention, Paul and Raju?
Well, just I'm happy for the report to be taken as read,
but just to pick up the point that David raised earlier,
Chair, around recruitment.
We are currently in the process of onboarding
about three people and one person recently,
joined to strengthen the finance side of it, finance and reporting side of it, and we are
taking on recruits in the admin side, and so obviously we're looking to train them up
because it is mightily difficult to find experienced admin people, so we've decided to, you know,
just bringing people we can train up from scratch,
say we are in the process of onboarding a couple of those.
If I let Raju sort of say.
So basically we've managed to recruit two trainees.
Hopefully they should start from the 27th or next week.
Letters have gone out to them.
The idea behind trainee role is, to be honest,
it's my historical journey,
because I started off as a trainee and I could see the way you can progress doing pensions course.
So that was the idea behind it. So they will be doing a professional pensions course which will
help them in terms of the theory and the knowledge side and then obviously day to day they will get
that day to day knowledge on the job knowledge. So hopefully that should help us. Like Paul said,
it is extremely difficult to get experienced pension administrators.
Not to say that we stopped recruiting, but we will still go out to see if we can get
experienced pension officers.
But these trainee roles will help us build for the future.
And in terms of the work -wise, we have made a massive stride.
The numbers are going down significantly.
As of now, we're actually, so basically what I usually do is I allocate a weekly list to
all pensions officers.
So providing we complete all of that, we'll be in a position where we're working on five -day
turn around, between two to five -day turn around.
So it's going to be robust service for the pensions members.
So it's looking good in terms of that.
And then the backlog is almost clear.
I think that's very welcome.
I'm sure everyone would endorse that.
I noticed page 31 when I added up the analysis of the case types, you know, you've gone
down from 460 -odd in January down to 360 or so at the end of March, so significant improvement.
And the trend is clearly in the right direction.
And I think everybody associates with that needs to be thanked, really, because we know
what a big effort that's been made.
I had a quick question on 40, page 40, in 35, I think this is a typing mistake where
in the table you have October, November and December and above that you have January to
March.
Is that?
Oh, yes, probably, sorry, apologies, yes, that should say January to March.
OK, yeah, it's probably a good idea to change that for me.
Thank you.
Other than that, I think on data quality on page 45, I noticed the revised completion
date end of August, 31st of August on Para 3 7.
Is that still the target?
Yes, Chair, the reason for that is because we had to pause to deal with the overpayments,
which for the record we'd like to have, you know, from a governance perspective to have
something for the record that is auditable, you know, before sorting out the overpayments
that the committee at least get the opportunity to, you know, agree to it.
Obviously it is consistent with the overpayment policy as is.
And the unders have already been resolved as per deregulation.
So the overpayments straight after the upcoming committee meeting on the 30th
will move swiftly to sort that out and that will then enable us to bring the project to a close.
Thank you.
Thank you. Any more questions, comments on this report? David?
Yes, Chair, I would certainly endorse Roger's comments earlier that this is a massive improvement.
You and I have been viewing this over many years.
this is significant and should be celebrated in the way you've asked us to record it chair.
But I would say one thing just about the vacancies which are also a celebration of that track of
career development approach is that we have asked over the years to give to have the recruitment in
context of an approved structure at that time. So you're seeing those vacancies in context.
We have held off, Chair, by being told that clearly there were reviews of structures.
So we have left it.
But if it was, as it was last in the last minutes, three posts out for administration
10, we should just see that for context.
The stability of the structure and the vacancy recruitment against that.
It gives us assurance.
Thank you.
I think we should admit it that we are really welcome in the improvement that there has
been. I thank you for the pass on that thanks to all the staff as well. Can we agree this
report? I can't see any hands going up. Are you happy to agree the report? Thank you very
That takes us on to 8 .3, which is the engagement report.
Is there anything to update on this, Paul, because it looks exactly like the one that
we had before?
Is there any change or not?
Thank you, Chair.
This is just to flag up that on the employee side, the annual event that we
planned to hold a few months back in February didn't materialise at the end,
not for the want of trying, but just a series of events that conspired to make
impossible to hold the event until now but we are anticipating that in a period
left before March next year that I would be able to hold the event as well as the
employer event and of course as we are now in a new LGPS environment we've
elected members and may have been in a readmitted to the scheme so on the
the employee side, we will be inviting elected members to attend the event as well because
they are also now part of the scheme proper.
I see there's no date yet, is there?
Do you know when roughly you're going to hold this?
We are liaising with colleagues in the appropriate department
facilities management to help us to identify suitable dates.
Because I think after a series of tube strikes
and all that, made it difficult to find a suitable date.
And then, of course, we ran into the local election period
and all that where in fact there were no rooms available anywhere to all the events. So we
are now back liaising with colleagues in facilities management to try and identify suitable dates
that we can hold these events.
Yes, Roger.
Can I just add on this? So basically we weren't able to do the employee, actual employee forum.
However, recently we had the staff presentation award forum where we had a pension store.
So it's similar to the employee forum, but in this one it's like one -to -one discussion.
So they come to the store, they ask their question.
So we've had that.
Then we had the road show where we also had a pension store.
So we're constantly having these pension stores where we're open to members coming and asking
questions.
All right.
David?
Thanks, chair.
Just for some reassurance in terms of the 1st of April changes in LGPS for employees
and members, in the light of what we're saying, when will and how will that be disseminated
in terms of particularly in terms of the change to death benefit, the number of years, I can
So you're both nodding. It was just how is that put out?
Because it makes the benefits more attractive, encourages people,
and it's just if we had a council and I know it was an employer's,
how is that being disseminated? Thank you.
Thank you, Chair.
We've got the upcoming annual benefits statement going out in the end of August.
So that would be appropriate time to
include additional information,
basically covering all the changes in the LGPS because I loaded lots of things
that you know have changed in recent periods that members need to be updated
on and of course you know thereafter just as you know Raj you said we have
got series of you know engagement events throughout the years for example around
Christmas we've got some colleagues who by the very nature of you know their
work and able to physically attend events.
And of course, they don't have access to systems,
because they're always out on the front line, for example,
refuse and all that.
So we go to them.
So we proactively engage them and then
agree the dates and times that work for them.
For example, during lunch break, so we go to various depots
and speak with them.
Yes, in addition, Chair, thanks for that clarity of the times
and the ways in which the 1st of April additions and revisions
are going to be communicated.
I have one further.
I'm not just a retired beneficiary of a Tower Hamlets pension,
I'm also a beneficiary of a Lambeth pension.
And I just want to ask for some confirmation of something that's happened in respect of
another London Borough Lambeth in my case, which is a couple of months back I was told
I was going to be charged if I wanted to keep to paper.
And in particular I was going to be charged by the pension administration section if I
wanted my annual statement that I give to Her Majesty's, His Majesty's revenues and
customs for my tax return. A couple of months after that, Lambeth withdrew the initiative.
I was just thinking where is Tower Hamlets in respect of any such initiative with its retired
members? Thank you, Chair. We have no plans whatsoever to introduce charging. However,
we are you know actively encouraging members to switch to electronic you know
mode of receiving information and so at every opportunity for example at
road shows and all that so we do promote the engage system which is effectively
a self -service platform that you know I think absolutely it's got all the
conveniences there. No we wouldn't do that.
Okay thank you. I'd print mine off by the way for what it's worth.
Any more questions for Paul or Raju on this item? Nothing on the screen.
I can see no hands going up. Yeah, Dwayne. My only question David on that point with
I mean, what's your view? Is it something that time should be considering, whether it be now or in the future, from a sustainable perspective?
Thanks Duane. I think Lambeth members reflected on who was actually asking for a continuity of paper.
and they were members who had a variety of needs and vulnerabilities.
And even though the argument in favour of paper was it's only a small percentage,
that percentage had characteristics that was the members were not comfortable with.
And so it was revised.
So there is scope as Paul and Roger are saying about electronic communications, but bearing
in mind vulnerabilities in any future way forward.
In that case, can we happy to agree the report, please?
Yeah, thank you very much, everyone.
That takes us to item 8 .4, which is the risk register.
I've got a few questions on this, so if you could just give us a very brief update, Paul,
on the changes and then we can get into the detail, I think.
Thank you, Chair.
So the report obviously sets out how the risk register is evolving because it's been a mammoth
task to, if you like, redesign the risk register to reflect the new LGPS feedforward in future
environment and forwarder reforms.
and the risk register as is will rapidly take shape over the next quarter, perhaps a couple of quarters,
not least because once we've got over all the key governance issues in the register,
then those will fall away and then of course the focus will then just remain with the rest
of the risks in the risk register.
I think the plan is to slim it down to manageable risk areas and all that and then of course
all the bells and whistles will then be appropriately introduced, for example, the mitigations and
of course, you know, I think the risk register still has my name written all over it, which,
you know, we're all mindful of that. But I think for the time being, the aim of the risk register
for the next six months is to focus on the absolute essentials, areas that the regulations require
changes to be made in order for the fund to be fully compliant with the new
regulations so that we do not lose sight of the fact of the key elements of the
new regulations that we must abide by to ensure that in the run -up to the
upcoming independent governance review that you know nothing escapes our
attention and that attention is focused solely on those key areas of risk and
and that will then also then help the risk register
to reduce in size.
But right now it's sort of designed just in its raw state
for the committee and for the board
to be cited on all the essentials.
Thank you, Chair, happy to take any questions.
Just for clarity, can I,
I know the issues on the systems are coming up
on the confidential part of the agenda,
so we pick up those later.
But on page 63, when we've got principle strategic risks,
and there's 19, I think, in parat 319,
are these the ones that are gonna be formed
a part of the new risk register?
Because I do think back to that presentation we had
a few months back, where the risk manager
for the council spoke, and we're gonna reduce
the number of risks down to about 15 or so.
I mean, is that still, A, is still that the plan, which I'm not clear about?
And then secondly, are these, is that the outcome that you're describing in 319?
The risk is that we reduce significantly, not just because the relationship between
the fund and the pool has changed.
I said things that the fund used to be responsible for, we have moved to the pool in terms of
implementation of the investment, which means that the responsibility of the fund has been
reduced to just monitoring activities for example.
So that will also come into play in the EFT.
Sorry.
So once the first element of the regulatory compliance have been met, say for example,
between now and next March then a lot of the compliance you know issues will have
been dealt with which will then help to significantly reduce the size of the
risk register because it's all about the key governance compliance issues that
are here. Then the other important thing that is reflected here of course is the
fact that on the system side of the pensions service we've got various key
admin systems like Altair and also the systems that payroll use for pensioner
payroll you know coming up for renewal. So one is this October, Altair is
expiring in October and then the other system is expiring in February. We did
also have another system on the finance side, Aggreso, which I'm reliably informed
that that has now been extended to 2030. So obviously we are monitoring that
because obviously the pension fund is a separate entity on Aggreso from the
council so we have to make sure that the pension fund is well you know catered
fall. So across those three systems that we are monitoring to make sure that you
know from a risk management perspective that those systems are you know renewed
because that's you know we depend on those systems they are critical to
delivering service. So all of that have been looked at as a principle
principle strategic risks this time around and then in in three months time
of course then it will probably be looking at a different set of risks
depending on what the environment is like you know at that time so the aim is
that between now and the next board then some of the you know things highlighted
here will have been addressed in which case they will you know fall away.
Thank you.
So we got just to clear in my mind then so in 316 we've got 32 risks there which are
attached aren't they in the appendix and then you've got 19 strategic risks and then we've
got the systems as well.
So are we saying we've got 32, 19 and three or four?
In totality there are 32.
And the one that you see, the key one for this time.
Okay, okay, okay, I understand.
Right, thank you, thank you.
David, right, any questions?
Yes, Chair.
And this is one we've pursued over several meetings and Paul knows that and have had
out of meeting contact with Paul and Abdul Rizak as well and others previously.
Just to complement your points, Paul, one of the risks, and we have said this before,
so this is a repetition and you will know it, you will remember it, it could be said
looking at the appendix of risks, the 30 plus, that having the same name, your name, is a
risk. 32 risks with one mitigator is significant. And we said that about a year ago too. So
So, it's good progress showing the front end analysis, that is its impact, its significance.
Second point Paul, none of the 32 describe, as you did just verbally, the mitigations
which reduce the risk.
The actions, the levers that will be pulled, only a couple of bullet points or words to
give the board and the committee assurance that actions to be taken
reduce and actually result in the material impact being reduced in the way
described numerically. So chair am I clear? Assurance that there are actions
Some of which you described to be taken to reduce or eliminate
The risks shown thanks
Yeah, thank you at a point before we get to deal with it because the the other thing I noticed if you look at
Page the the risks page 67 onwards
The risk scores target risk scores impact likelihood etc. And the review date are the same for everyone
right the way through is that the intention or is that you see what I'm
saying so every single yeah every single every single risk is 12 8 and the review
dates are all the 11th of June yes chair this is very much in search
stretching things a bit this is very much deliberate and everything that has
been said is well understood has been said umpteen times and it is firmly on
radar. If I can draw your attention to page 63, 3 .19, you will see reference from
the sort of penultimate, where you see delete PFRS 009 008, you will see
that those having picked up as you know duplication of everything else because
because we are building or we have built
a risk register from scratch to reflect the new
very, very comprehensive changes to the scheme.
So this is a new build, so you should expect to have,
you know, if you like, the NHBC type issues
which we are now fixing.
So which means that the 32, the total number of risk
will shrink very rapidly in the coming months.
So for now, we don't need to do sort of mitigation
for every single one because we are just rapidly trying
to achieve full statutory compliance with the regulations
because that for us is key at this precise point in time.
And then in the next quarter and all that,
once we start having the number of risk reduced,
then they will be apportioned accordingly across the team.
So Raju will take admin time.
I think Arsan wants to come in.
Morning.
Good morning.
Thank you, Chair.
I think Paul's kind of illustrated
some of the priorities that the team have been focused on.
And we touched on some of these areas
in some of the earlier reports.
I think we are entering a brave new world.
and as Paul detailed out, I think we are in a phase of rationalising this.
So taking on board everything that the board has said,
completely agree with a lot of the points coming out,
we need to get this to a place where we can actively manage and monitor it.
It's going through a transition period.
One thing we have noted is, and a kind of credit to the team,
is they are trying to approach and think about this in the brave new world.
I don't think there's many local authorities that are trying to adapt their risk registers in this manner. Not not right up until now
So I think there's a bit of learning for everybody to do as we enter this brave new world
So this isn't what it should be absolutely fully agree with the board on this
The only thing I think we need to sit down as a team and try and accelerate this
And I'm intending to set up a couple of meetings just to get external input on this potentially from our special advisor
You know the boards input as well use some of our specialists, but I think it's poor detail out
We are we are we are trying to get there in terms of we can really push it now
Some of the priorities has been in other areas
And it's really trying to get it to a place where we can we can use it as a management tool
And it's an end product. I don't think it's an end product right now
That's very helpful. Thanks for that update. I think given the committee is
I think it would be useful to, you know, when the report comes to the committee just to
sort of put that point across, I think.
So, yeah.
But okay.
Right.
Any more?
I'm not seeing any hands on the screen, John, or, no, Anika, nothing.
No hands up there.
So any more questions, comments?
Yes, just to just to highlight, that the on page 63, the reference 0010, the risk of poor
outcome of an independent governance review, that is, if you like, that's where it all comes
that in the wash. Yeah yeah. You know say everything we're doing is building up to
ensuring that we come out looking good in that first independent governance
report because that report will go to the Secretary of State. So from a
governance perspective and everything else the site is you know is absolutely
fix on making sure that you know that report you know will do us justice all
right well if there's no more questions comments can we agree the report subject
to the comments we've made everyone happy with that yeah thank you all very
much that takes us to item 9 which is the committee agenda but it's basically
the same agenda as we've got here isn't it I think everything on today's agenda
is going will go next week so I think we can pass that obviously there'll be some
other reports as well from the committee on the investment side item 10 is
training events Paul this or anything you want to say about this thank you
I mean training is a key part of the board and committee responsibility both as individual
and collectively as board and committee.
And officers are taking, you know, the short training extremely seriously.
and I'm pleased to say that we've already provided key training opportunities.
For example, on the 29th of June there was the joint board committee training,
which Hyman's did, and was well attended.
and then on the 13th of July, just only last week, there was a training event.
Unfortunately the attendance wasn't great. This was just for committee
members at the London CIV. And then the following day on the 14th, it was last
Tuesday then we held a investment training which was well attended and this was targeted
at the committee as well. I know you were there, chair. And from the initial feedback
it was, you know, very well received and basically addressed those key areas that the committee
will need to be absolutely comfortable with before the meeting committee in
just about a week's time where they will be required to make decisions and over
and above that and of course the Lola platform is there and committee and board
members have already been registered enabling you know individuals to log on
and look at the material on the portal in their own time and at a pace that is good for them.
The one I attended which was on the 14th I thought was very good actually. It was only an hour wasn't
and as Mercer's plus Colin Robertson presented and there was quite a good dialogue going on in the room.
My only comment, I just think when you're running training events it's good to invite committee and board members
and if it can be done virtually, it opens up training to everybody so everybody's on the same sort of agenda then
and I think that helps develop people's training and knowledge skills and also as far as the outside world's concerned
it can see that some town that's are taking it seriously so I would urge you
know to circulate the invitations widely I found it a very useful hour anyway
even though I obviously understand a lot of it I thought it went well so well
done yeah David thanks chair I would completely support your comments on do
invitations to the board. I understand and Paul explained that the 13th of the
7th was to further enhance new committee members but your point about the
new responsibilities, the brave new world that was on the 14th of the 7th and your
own on the 26th of March in respect of investment is something if we wish to
have any understanding or grip on our supportive oversight role we need to
attend as well. And I just say I would just completely endorse that we should
be a board invitation as well to the new areas the breaking news areas so we can
be supportive. Thank you. Okay happy with that. Yeah yeah I'll send yeah. Mr. Chest
it's been positive feedback on the 14th I'm sure board members see the if those
that couldn't attend have they been you can see the material I'm sure that will
be an issue will it Paul if we can we share the training material with board
members. Yeah the material is available to whoever wants to. Those who couldn't attend. Yeah sorry
either could it was case for me, Aashan, of wasn't invited so couldn't it's very
important that's the whole point I was making so wasn't invited would like to
see the material and I asked at the end of the 29th of June training session
which I did attend that also the overheads bullet points
PowerPoint presentation and Duane was there. In fact we asked please could that
be disseminated in the same way but certainly share the investment please.
Jay if I may come in again. I think because of the way the new environment
has been structured. The pool, the London Sieve, their main focus is on committees,
not boards. So they will do intermittently things for boards, but their main focus is
the committee because that's where the decisions are made. So I have spoken with them on this
and they are absolutely resolute in their thinking that their main focus is committees
because obviously the decision -making side of it is where, you know, they focus their...
Chair, I haven't seen our terms of reference as supportive oversight
to the committee, the decision -maker, being removed yet.
We're talking about one hour.
Ashan has told us, there was one hour which will share the PowerPoints.
I'm only simply asking if there's another hour at the beginning of a brave new world no more than that
That might last several years that we be allowed attendance
Yeah, I mean if it's training sessions, I can't see Paul January I can't see that's an issue
Noted you on your point and material we share regardless
Thank you
Just just to add
The other board I chair that principles applied there as well board and committee members are widely invited to
And in fact when the pool, which is in Wales, runs training sessions, they invite every
committee board, committee and board member, so you sometimes have 60, 70 people online
who have been in the past listening to training sessions.
So it can only help understanding and progress in managing the fund is my view.
So I don't think it's about encroaching on responsibilities, it's about, I think it's
about understanding context.
Any more thoughts or comments on the screen?
Online?
Nothing?
In that case, can we, we didn't have a report, but can we agree what was said?
And then move on please to item 11, which is the work plan.
which I think follows the same report as we've format that we've had before I
think are there any changes Paul? Thanks chair I think the changes will
obviously excuse me reflect the key issues on the horizon around you know
to ensure that again we achieve compliance.
So I think that's really where the emphasis is
until compliance is achieved
because the government is taking the issue of compliance
very seriously because the regulator is involved as well.
And I think the regulator is threatening sanctions
sanctions on those that fail to achieve compliance and the deadline dates
you know are very strict and not movable so hence we are focusing on making sure
that you know things that we need to do because there are lots and lots of them
we get those all done. Thanks the one the one thing I would question or at make
we added we did ask that Collins report which which goes to the committee on the
Bribble bit private confidential should come here in after and that was very
helpful so people still want to see that
yeah so if we could make sure that's covered please in the in the reports any
Any more questions, comments on the screen online?
No, don't see your hands, thanks, thanks.
All right, well, if we agree, it's that item, please,
and then we can move on to item, which way are we?
Item 12, any other urgent business?
I don't think there is any.
So that takes us on to 13, exclusion of press and public,
that in view of the contents of the remaining items
on the agenda, the committee is recommended
to adopt the following motion,
that under the provisions of section 100A of the Local Government Act 1972 as amended
by the Local Government Access to Information Act of 1985, the present public be excluded
from the remainder of the meeting for the consideration of the section 2 business on
the grounds that it contains information defined as exempt in part 1 of schedule 12A to the
Local Government Act 1972.
We're happy to agree that.
Can someone second that?
David?
Yeah.
Thank you.
and Dwayne so that's agreed